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Washington DC (Map, News) - The U.S. command in Baghdad this week ballyhooed the killing of a key al Qaeda leader but later admitted that the military had declared him dead a year ago.

A military spokesman acknowledged the mistake after it was called to his attention by The Examiner. He said public affairs officers will be more careful in announcing significant kills.

The incident shows the eagerness of the command to show progress in dismantling al Qaeda at a time when Democrats and some Republicans are pressing President Bush to withdraw troops from Iraq. Army Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander, has declared al Qaeda enemy No. 1 in Iraq.

Brig. Gen. Kevin Bergner began his Monday news conference with a list of top insurgents either killed or captured in recent operations. He said they had been eliminated "in the past few weeks" and were "recent results."

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"In the north, Iraqi army and coalition forces continue successful operations in Mosul," he told reporters. "Kamal Jalil Uthman, also known as Said Hamza, was the al Qaeda in Iraq military emir of Mosul. He planned, coordinated and facilitated suicide bombings, and he facilitated the movement of more than a hundred foreign fighters through safe houses in the area." All told, Bergner devoted 68 words to Uthman's demise.

Uthman was indeed a big kill, and the military featured his death last year in a report titled "Tearing Down al Qaeda."

"The more we can bring down al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations, the greater probability of reducing violence," Army Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, the command's chief spokesman said, in 2006.

Uthman was listed in the 2006 news release as "the chief of military operations [in] Mosul."

When The Examiner pointed out that Uthman's death had been announced twice, a command spokesman said in an e-mail, "You are correct that we did previously announce that we killed him. This was a roll up to show an overall effort against [al Qaeda in Iraq]. We can probably do a better job on saying 'previously announced' when we do long-term roll ups to show an overall effort."

rscarborough@dcexaminer.com

 

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9:37 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
Good! Make sure the bastard IS dead.

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9:31 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Frank said:
"(The French can win a battle...wow)" Pretty much the same thing can be said of Americans. They should stay away from third world countries where people wear sandals and stick to those where people go around barefoot, like Grenada.

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9:23 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 L said:
The most stultifying comments in this national debate come from those saying "just sit down and talk with them." OK. Do this to train for such negotiations: sit in front of a hungry animal (dog, wolf, cat or even a hamster) that has been beaten and starved, give it some food and while talking kindly and peacefully reach out and pet it... if you don't get bitten, reach out again. Keep repeating this. Eventually, you will be bitten. Eventually, it will turn on you - might succeed in killing you if large enough. Send in the next trainee. Repeat as needed because much study has to be done to find out how to deal with those who do not share our sense of values and traditions. We cannot deal with a people who's culture keeps them just a step above animals in order to be subservient to the ruling class. Join their society and they will let you live - as a minion. Other options? Death or.. death. The victims on 9/11 found out this truth - we all need to learn from it.

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9:20 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 G W Bush rocks! said:
Phuture - Black is beautiful and tan is grand, but white is the color of the big boss man!

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9:20 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 G W Bush rocks! said:
Phuture - Black is beautiful and tan is grand, but white is the color of the big boss man!

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9:06 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
SO WHAT???!!! IT'S WORTH REPEATING! we need to shower the world and intimidated democrats with the news of our MANY military victories over radical Islamists!

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9:01 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
There is no story here. the report was a synopsys of progress so far. Left wing media strikes again.

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8:56 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Phuture said:
Again, what is the real issue here? Whatever the issue or problem is, I'm sure that an honest assessment is more useful than just sniping at one another.

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8:50 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Phuture said:
I never mentioned religion in my post. I mentioned whte and non-white people specifically. There is no way to have a intelligent discussion concerning white vs. muslim. White is a color (or in this instance politically based designation) and religion is a belief. How can a color be opposed to a belief or vice versa? Whites vs Muslims - Blacks and Jews - Whites and Christians? None of these titles make any sense whatsoever and and scholar or professor or preist or rabbi can logically say that they do.

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8:42 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 To Phuture... said:
White people are afraid of non-white people... in regards to Muslim expansion... they are the ones who invaded Jerusalem, the ones who invaded north africa, the ones who sacked Constantinapole (modern day Istanbul) the ones who invaded Spain, and were ultimately beaten back at the battle of Tours(The French can win a battle...wow) It seems that in regards to the Muslims, the "whites" have been nothing but reactionary to the aggressive behaviors of the Muslim world. So the question is, why are Muslims so afraid of whites? And to answer your question, its the fear that these peace loving muslims might blow themselves up and kill quite a few people, or maybe fly a plane into a building... yeah thats never happened before... so stop blaming problems on others, and be a little more reflective. Perhaps "you" are just as much a problem...

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8:38 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Big D said:
Dishonest reporting yet again! When will the media stop trying to tear down their own country? The final line of the report shows that the reporter knew that this was a summarized report showing successes in Iraq. Knowing this, he still decided to report it as if there was some sort of military conspiracy to overstate successes, and did not admit that it was a reporting mistake until the last sentence... "You are correct that we did previously announce that we killed him. This was a roll up to show an overall effort against [al Qaeda in Iraq]. We can probably do a better job on saying 'previously announced' when we do long-term roll ups to show an overall effort.". The military admitted that they should have been clearer when releasing the report, and the reporter knew it. Why don't you people who are on the side of al qaeda go over there and help them... I'm sure they will welcome you with open arms.

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8:37 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Phuture said:
Examiner Reader. I agree that murder is an aggregious act and anyone in there right mind would be opposed to senseless killing. But if you check history white people have killed something like 120 million people (white but mostly non-white) alone. There is no other race of people that even comes close anywhere in the world and with the advent of technological advances thousands of people can be wiped out in an instant as we have seen in Iraq. How is it then that white people are afraid of murder when they have been the major purveyors of it?

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8:37 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
I would Like someone to tell me when NEGOTIATING really solved the problem with lunatics. Chamberlin giving land to Hitler (who later went on to do what he wanted anyway) and Clinton giving N. Korea nuclear technology for "peaceful purposes" (who now could possibly make a bomb and sell to the highest bidder). What happened there? Don't tell me terrorists hate us because of Bush. Tanzania, Kenya, Trade Center 93', Somalia. All under Clinton. 9/11 happened becuase he didn't with any of them back then. He was too busy "getting busy". I'm in my early twenties and don't like these old hippies or next generation hippies comparing this to vietnam. Come into the real world and know that evil people exists and they are not gonna sit around and sing kumbaya with you if we just pack our bags and come home. They'll come right back with us bolder and with more clout. We need to take the gloves off and handle this the right way. Enough trying to please these bleeding-heart liberals.

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8:33 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
Hopefully he stays dead this time. All we need is a new zombie army that has to be killed many more times. We'll have to send all of the gamers over to take care of those....

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8:24 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader #2 said:
Phuture. I believe it's murder that white people are afraid of. When people don't care about their own life (suicide bombers) how do you fight that type of act? If the belief is that you go to heaven for killing yourself and others in the name of religion, why were they born in the first place? Kind of stupid thinking isn't it?

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8:15 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Phuture said:
Ok, lets be honest here. What exactly is it that white people (regardless of county) are afraid of from non-white people. There has been a perpetual war with non-white people for centuries. Is it genetic annihalation? What is it?

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8:15 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Phuture said:
Ok, lets be honest here. What exactly is it that white people (regardless of county) are afraid of from non-white people. There has been a perpetual war with non-white people for centuries. Is it genetic annihalation? What is it?

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8:03 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
It is really amazing why the US is in the state it is in. We are a country of sheeple that will believe what the government tells us, no matter the the facts. Like Borat, I I have a brother with retardation... He is Republican, he is Democrat.

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7:59 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
still think we really killed saddam?

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7:58 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
Vic W. Iraq was a bold move to uproot Saddam. It makes more sense than fighting in Afganistan. the russians learned there the hardway. Iraq is strategic to US interests in the Middle east given that Iran isn't exacftly wishing us well these days. Wake up Vic. Quit looking for ways to justify your cowardice. The US is in 30, yes thirty diffrent countries actively enganging Ismaic terrorists (war)> Not just Iraq and Afganistan. Becasue Al Quadea is not just in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is a global WAR. It will not end in 1, 2, 3, 4 ,5 6 years. It is a twenty, thirty year war. The Islamic Jihadists have been fighting this war against the Christians in the crusades. OOOHHH If we just leave Iraq, we will be safe,,....naught!!!! They will leave us aloone...naught....!!! They will Kill VIC like they did DAvid Pearl if given the oppurtunity.

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7:50 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Darrell said:
Liberals usually fall under one or more of these catagories: Communists Criminals Crybabies

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7:50 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
Good!! Now let's just pave the whole bloody region!!!

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7:46 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
Not a story. Not news. The media continues to stretch, to incredible lengths, to cast the US efforts in Iraq in a negative light.

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7:44 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 dp said:
The US adopted the same PR strategy in Vietnam. They would overstate kills and understate losses. Someone finally figured out that the amount of kills the US government reported were more than the population of entire areas by the time the war ended.

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7:43 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Darrrell said:
You can't impeach someone who has done nothing wrong, you have to have evidence, not a conspiracy theory. That's why the libs only yap about it and do nothing about it!!! We impeached Clinton because he was a liar, and we proved it!! Step up to the plate if you have something!!!

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7:36 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
Even Vic's dog is smarter than Bush. Everyone vote for Vic W. and Spot for Prez and Vice Prez in the next election. Vic's initial is even W!!! Our next W!!! I'm excited!!!

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7:34 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Examiner Reader said:
I think Al-Quaeda should be referred to as cowards instead of terrorists. Instead of saying: "insurgents or terrorists killed innocent people", it should be:"another cowardly suicide bomber just blew up a market". Say it for what it is.

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7:22 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 Darrell said:
I didn't know we elected a president who could not read, but he made higher grades in college than Al Gore or John Kerry! We should have voted for Vic W, he knows everything about this war! Hail Vic!!!

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7:13 AM MST on Fri., Jul. 6, 2007 re: "U.S. eager and it shows in Iraq"

 cclaydog said:
Vic W should consider posting something other than moveon.org headlines. We've all heard you're spew before. You and your buddies are even posting on here to NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS! I just hope the Lord helps us if one of you people ever get inside the White House.

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1:05 PM MST on Sun., Apr. 29, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 quinn said:
this was a good story but i hate the irans they are no good to us that is why we had hung up saddam husan and that is when we won the war

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12:01 PM MST on Sat., Apr. 28, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
vic is very witty...

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11:58 AM MST on Sat., Apr. 28, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
vic! you're so smart! and it seems like you know it all! you should run for president! i'd vote for you!! really!!

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11:33 AM MST on Sat., Apr. 28, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 vic w said:
And for the record: I think we should have rooted out Al quada in Afghanistan AND Pakistan in the early days after 9/11. Instead, the geniuses in the Bush administration did absolutely everything possible to create cnditions that since 9/11 have resulted in an explosive growth of Al Quada supporters and converts. The fact is, Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with Al Quada -- yet, the Bush geniuses and their supporters (who clearly can not read) keeep repeating (as though repeeating a lie will make it truth) that there was an absolute connection between Iraq and Al Quada. The deeper truth was that Bin Laden (whose evil name we really should not use) despised the Iraqi leadership. Only after the Americans invaded Iraq did Al Quada see the opportunity to multiply the chaos that we let develop in Iraq -- and we let it develop in Iraq because the Bush geniuses had absolutely no grasp on history or reality. Bush still believes that Iraq will soon be a land where you can walk safely.

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11:25 AM MST on Sat., Apr. 28, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 vic w said:
To the reader who said that I listen to my dog: You can't read -- and thus you very nicely reinforce my point about Republican Bush supporters. What I did say was that: "Even my dog knows that Bush supporters can not be trusted to know the difference between the truth and a turd." A completeely different statement than what the Republican Bush supporter attributed to me. So, what we are saying here is that Bush supporters can't read, they can't tell the difference between the truth and a turd, and that they are hopeless in love with incompetent, ideologic and arrogant George W Bush. In my estimation that makes the current sounds and smells that the Republican right wing exudes very similar to what wafts and gurgles from a sewage treatment plant. At some point one would wish that the right wing would just drown in their own sewage and religious delusions. The world would be better off without them and their Islamic counterparts. Yes: The Islamic terrorists are their cousin

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9:16 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
We should all listen to vic w, he gets his advice from his dog. Intelligent liberals?

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6:09 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 teddy said:
i agree with vic...as an intelligent liberal, i think we should negotiate for PEACE with the terrorists. there is NO democratic government in Iraq. there is a Bush puppet regime set up to make him rich off oil money and that is a fact! there is no legitimate reason for us to be there. it is all LIES!! if the right wingers would watch CNN, MSNBC etc. a little more often, they would see the truth clearly.

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5:35 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 vic w said:
Here is some news: BUSH SUPPORTERS FOUND TO SUFFER MORE NIGHTMARES THAN "NORMAL" PEOPLE.

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5:32 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 vic w said:
To you Bush supporters who believe that only Right Wing Republicans love America: Up Yours. What an absurd arguement to resort to lies about someone elses patriotism. I am sorry that there are vocal liberals spouting silliness, but I am disgusted that there are so many right wing liars who wouldn't know the truth if almighty god presented it to you. You guys are so divorced from the teachings of any religion that you get yours from the likes of closet gay preachers who run mega churches and earn mega bucks. I pity your children. I weap for the future that you so desperately want: A world devoid of TRUTH, LOGIC and HUMANITY. Look around you. Everything your eyes and bigotry see is the work of your fears of Satan. Wake up, all your fears and religion are weakness and fantasy. Start using your brain, travel and read. Try thinking for a change. And quit attributing a hatred of America to people who don't like your televangelists and incompetent Bush Presidency. Pfffftttt

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5:25 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 vic w said:
The reader who blindly echos the Bush Administrations haughty position of "never negotiate with terrorists or nations like Iran, Syria,etc...": What, are you missing? Do you think the long and successful history of diplomacy never involved dealing with blood enemies? Come on, wake up. The Bush Neocons are a bunch of uneducated ideologs who believe that all you need is religion and that only they understand anything. The problem they have is that they have consistently and without exception screwed up everything they set out to do anywhere! How the hell can any intelligent person believee in these characters? Even my dog knows that Bush supporters can not be trusted to know the difference between the truth and a turd. (And that is a fact.)

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5:07 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 vic w said:
The comments on this article are stunning in light of several well understood facts: --9/11 was perpetrated by Afghan and Pakistan based Al Quada, had nothing to do with Iraq --The Bush administration's justifications for invading Iraq have been shown to be nothing more than distortions and lies --The strategy to turn Iraq into a democracy may have worked, but it was at best executed by an administration so incompetent that Iraq has become a magnet for terrorists from around the world --Withdrawing without a further thought of the consequences of doing so is as stupid as getting into the mess in the first place --The Bush administration has at every turn, and despite all the evidence to that point, had nothing but blind optimism about the future The best way I can describe the Bush administration is as: --Arrogant --Ideologic --Incompetent A terrible combination when you add religion to the mix -- no, not the religion of Islamic idiots but the religious beliefs of the US far right.

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4:55 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
How many "top al-Qaeda leaders" have we captured now? It has to be around 15. Oh such great progress.

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4:53 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Senior al Qaeda commander captured"

 Examiner Reader said:
For the reader "why has nobody tried to negotiate with them?" I assume "them� means the �terrorist" and it is US policy never to negotiate with terrorists. It is sad people actually refer to them as "freedom fighters."

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4:44 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
The new strategy of clear, hold, and build under General Petraeus is working! The Iraqi government and military backed by the coalition has made good progress in 2007. The tide has turned and momentum is on our side. Even the Sunni population is turning against Al-Qaeda in Iraq! Our politicians and our new president in 2009 must give General Petraeus his chance to win this war. Read the article about Petraeus in the weekly standard dated 4/30/07

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4:42 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
we should have nuked the bastards,right after 9/11

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4:33 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
Great! Now maybe he'll confess to plotting to blow up buildings that didn't even exist before he was 'captured,' just like KSM. This makes, what...two hundred or so 'top al Queda leaders' that we've taken into custody. Why don't I believe a single word that comes out of Washington these days? And get the headline correct, Examiner: the CIA didn't capture him: somebody turned him in over a year ago--they just waited until they got the word from the White House to announce it. With both Gonzales and Wolfowitz caught in a web of lies and the war going down the toilet maybe this will distract a few people from the ineptitude of BushCo.

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4:26 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
Why do you radicalib democrats hate the USA and love the enemy in every war???

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4:22 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
You crazy lib's, you cant do anything without a conspiracy theory. Good job catching this guy. Good job withholding any info on him until he had been interrigated fully and sent to spend the rest of his days in Guantanamo.

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4:20 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
But when will Bush and Cheney be arrested? I'm getting tired of the BS!

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4:17 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
Fighting islamo-fascism is certainly going to be long drawn and costly. Not fighting it could be costlier. Tackling it by politics and diplomacy only pushes the problem to our grand children's generation. Americans must stop blaming themselves for everything that is bad in this world. If you think that "they" hate us for something that we did or if you don't understand why Iranian president hates Israel, read Robert Spencer's "The Truth about Muhammad" for starters.

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4:14 PM MST on Fri., Apr. 27, 2007 re: "Captured al Qaeda leader moved to Gitmo"

 Examiner Reader said:
big fricken deal. like this is a turning point story

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